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A 4-step framework for building delightful products | Nesrine Changuel (Spotify, Google, Skype)
Nesrine Changuel helped build Spotify, Google Chrome, and Google Meet. Her work has helped her discover the importance of emotional connection in building successful products. At Google, she served as a dedicated “delight PM,” a role specifically focused on making products more delightful. She recently published Product Delight, a book that provides a practical framework for creating products that serve both functional and emotional needs. Based in Paris, she now coaches founders and CPOs on implementing delight strategies in their organizations. *What you’ll learn:* 1. Why delight is a business strategy, not just “sprinkling confetti” on top of functionality 2. How to identify emotional motivators that drive product retention 3. The 50-40-10 rule for balancing delight in your roadmap 4. The 4-step delight model 5. The origin story of Spotify’s Discover Weekly 6. Why B2B products need delight just as much as B2C products 7. How to get buy-in from skeptical leaders who think delight is a luxury *Brought to you by:* DX—The developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers: https://getdx.com/lenny Jira Product Discovery—Confidence to build the right thing: https://atlassian.com/lenny LucidLink—Real-time cloud storage for teams: https://www.lucidlink.com/lenny *Transcript:* https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-4-step-framework-for-building-delightful-products *My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers):* https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/174199489/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation *Where to find Nesrine Changuel:* • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nesrinechanguel/ • Newsletter: https://nesrinechanguel.substack.com/ • Website: https://nesrine-changuel.com/ *Where to find Lenny:* • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ *In this episode, we cover:* (00:00) Introduction to Nesrine and product delight (04:56) Why delight matters (09:17) What makes a feature “delightful” (12:29) The three pillars of delight (13:03) Pillar 1: Removing friction (Uber refund example) (15:07) Pillar 2: Anticipating needs (Revolut eSIM example) (17:21) Pillar 3: Exceeding expectations (Edge coupon example) (18:35) The “confetti effect” and when it actually works (22:02) B2B vs. B2C: Why all products need emotional connection (29:52) The Delight Model: A 4-step framework (30:57) Step 1: Identifying user motivators (functional and emotional) (33:55) Step 2: Converting motivators into product opportunities (34:46) Step 3: Identifying solutions with the delight grid (36:46) Step 4: Validating ideas with the delight checklist (40:22) The Delight Model summarized (42:18) The importance of familiarity (Spotify Discover Weekly story) (45:21) Real examples: Chrome’s tab management solution (51:32) Google Meet’s solution for “Zoom fatigue” (55:02) Getting buy-in from skeptical leaders (59:39) Prioritizing delight: The 50-40-10 rule (1:02:41) Creating a culture of delight in your organization (1:06:45) The habituation effect (1:08:15) When delight goes wrong: Apple reactions example (1:10:21) How delight motivates product teams (1:12:24) Lightning round and final thoughts *Referenced:* • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/ • Linear: https://linear.app/ • How Linear builds product: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-linear-builds-product • Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira • Asana: https://asana.com/ • Monday: https://monday.com/ • The Product Delight Model: https://nesrinechanguel.substack.com/p/the-product-delight-model • Revolut: https://www.revolut.com/ • How Revolut trains world-class product managers: The “local CEO” model, raw intellect over experience, and a cultural obsession with building wow products | Dmitry Zlokazov (Head of Product): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-revolut-trains-world-class-product-managers • Microsoft Cashback: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/features/shopping-cashback • Superhuman’s secret to success: Ignoring most customer feedback, manually onboarding every new user, obsessing over every detail, and positioning around a single attribute: speed | Rahul Vohra (CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/superhumans-secret-to-success-rahul-vohra • Brian Chesky’s secret mentor who died 9 times, started the Burning Man board, and built the world’s first midlife wisdom school | Chip Conley (founder of MEA): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/chip-conley • Workday: https://www.workday.com/ • SAP: https://www.sap.com/ • ServiceNow: https://www.servicenow.com/ ...References continued at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-4-step-framework-for-building-delightful-products _Production and marketing by https://penname.co/._ _For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com._ Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.
A 4-step framework for building delightful products | Nesrine Changuel (Spotify, Google, Skype)
 
In order for a product to be loved, you need to set the bar higher than your users themselves. — Rahul Vohra
 
Here are the key takeaways from Nesrine Changuel’s 4-step framework for building delightful products, based on her experience at Spotify, Google, and Skype:
Why Delight Matters
  • Delight is a business strategy, not just adding superficial “confetti” to functionality; it’s about creating emotional connections that drive retention, loyalty, and differentiation in competitive markets.
  • Products need to serve both functional and emotional user needs to stand out and foster deep engagement.
The Three Pillars of Delight
  1. Removing Friction: Make the hardest parts of the user journey easy (e.g., Uber’s effortless refund process reduces stress and builds trust).
  1. Anticipating Needs: Surprise users with solutions before they even ask (e.g., Revolut banking app offering eSIMs for traveling customers).
  1. Exceeding Expectations: Go beyond what’s expected to deliver “wow” moments (e.g., browser autofill features finding and applying discount coupons automatically).
The 4-Step Delight Model
  1. Identify User Motivators: Go beyond demographic and behavioral segmentation; uncover both functional (“I want to find a song”) and emotional (“I want to feel less lonely”) motivators.
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  1. Convert Motivators into Product Opportunities: Use motivators to ideate opportunities (not just solving problems, but honoring both functional and emotional needs).
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  1. Identify Solutions with the Delight Grid: Categorize solutions as:
      • Surface Delight (solves only emotional need, e.g., fun animation)
      • Low Delight (only functional need)
      • Deep Delight (solves both emotional and functional needs—most powerful)
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  1. Validate with the Delight Checklist: Ensure your solution delivers user and business impact, checks for inclusivity, and maintains joy over time. Avoid delight that might alienate or upset users (e.g., Apple’s reactions causing awkward moments in sensitive contexts).
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Making Delight Work in Practice
  • Deep Delight means emotion and function are embedded together (not a trade-off).
  • Use the 50-40-10 Rule for your roadmap:
    • 50% Low Delight (functionality)
    • 40% Deep Delight (integration of emotion and function)
    • 10% Surface Delight (purely joyful features)
  • Delight applies to B2B as much as B2C—any product for humans should honor emotional motivators.
  • Continuous surprise is key—avoid the “habituation effect” (delight wears off unless continually refreshed).
  • To gain buy-in: Align the case for delight with leadership’s goals—don’t pitch “confetti”; pitch solutions that drive results, pride, and advocacy.
Cultural Adoption
  • Make delight a permanent product pillar and embed it in team rituals (health checks, hack days, “delight days”).
  • Building delightful features increases team motivation—PMs get excited seeing happy user reactions.
Product Examples
  • Chrome's Inactive Tabs: Reduced user stress by automatically managing tab clutter while preserving user trust.
  • Google Meet: Minimized “self-view” to reduce “Zoom fatigue”; added emoji reactions for better interaction and engagement.
  • Spotify Discover Weekly: Success came from blending new content with familiar tracks, delivering repeatable joy and surprise.
Checklist for Delight
  • Check for inclusion, familiarity (don’t surprise too much!), continuous innovation, and business alignment.
  • Avoid “anti-delight”—features that may backfire due to lack of context or insensitivity.
Summary
Delight is an actionable product strategy that blends emotional and functional needs, is validated for inclusivity and impact, and maintained as a core cultural value to create products users love and teams are motivated to build.
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Nesrine Changuel: We Should All Prioritise Product Delight!
On this episode, I speak to my friend Nesrine Changuel, product coach and author of the new book "Product Delight". Nesrine started her career at Bell Labs as a research engineer before moving into product management at Microsoft, Spotify, and Google, where she even held the title "PM for Delight" on Google Meet. Her work focuses on how products can go beyond functionality to create genuine emotional connections with users. Episode highlights: • Why Product Delight is more than just a “nice to have”, and isn't just confetti on your boring app • The three pillars of Product Delight: reducing friction, anticipating needs, and exceeding expectations • The difference between surface delight (like balloons on your Apple Watch) and deep delight (features that serve emotional and functional needs together) • Why delight matters just as much in B2B products as in consumer apps, and why everything is B2H • How to get buy-in from leaders and stakeholders by linking emotional connection to revenue, retention, and referrals • The Delight Grid and Nesrine's four-step model for embedding delight into your product process • The risks of chasing the wrong kind of delight (like Deliveroo's failed Mother's Day campaign or Apple's awkward gesture fireworks) ... And much more. Buy the book You can grab a copy of Product Delight here: Nesrine's site: https://nesrine-changuel.com/product-delight-book/ Amazon UK: https://a.co/d/1J7JLZZ Contact Nesrine Website: https://www.nesrine-changuel.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nesrinechanguel Newsletter: https://nesrinechanguel.substack.com
Nesrine Changuel: We Should All Prioritise Product Delight!
Here are the key takeaways from the video "Nesrine Changuel: We Should All Prioritise Product Delight!":
  • Product delight is a strategic advantage: Nesrine Changuel emphasizes that delight is not just an add-on, but a critical driver of business outcomes—improving revenue, retention, and referrals.
  • Delight goes beyond functionality: Great products connect emotionally with users. True product delight combines removing friction, anticipating needs, and exceeding expectations.
  • Emotional connection matters in all products: Whether B2B or B2C, thinking “Business to Human” (B2H) helps teams design products that foster loyalty and long-term engagement.
  • Frameworks for delight: Nesrine shares tools like the “Delight Grid,” which helps teams balance functional improvements with both deep and surface delight:
    • Surface delight: Fun touches and delightful moments, like playful animations or confetti on achievements.
    • Deep delight: Features or experiences that are functional and emotionally resonant, making the product memorable and “sticky.”
  • Inclusivity & appropriateness: Not all attempts at delight work for every user—teams must consider diversity and context so delight doesn’t backfire or cause harm.
  • 50410 Roadmap Ratio: Nesrine suggests a robust product roadmap includes 50% functional “table stakes,” 40% deep delight, and 10% surface delight to optimize impact.
  • Delight as a leadership and cultural priority: Building delightful products requires commitment from leadership, integrating delight as a core value and regular discussion point.
  • Delight versus manipulation: Product delight should always respect user values and avoid manipulative tactics or addictive behaviors—authentic delight is sustainable and user-centric.
  • Emotional needs are timeless: Technology shifts rapidly, but human emotional drivers persist; investing in delight is investing in long-lasting product success.
These points summarize the mindset, practical strategies, and frameworks that Nesrine Changuel advocates for in creating genuinely delightful products and user experiences.
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