Lessons from a 2-time unicorn builder, 50-time startup advisor and 20-time board member | Uri Levine

Lessons from a 2-time unicorn builder, 50-time startup advisor and 20-time board member | Uri Levine

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Lessons from a 2-time unicorn builder, 50-time startup advisor and 20-time board member | Uri Levine
Uri Levine is the co-founder of Waze, the world’s largest community-based traffic and navigation app, acquired by Google for over $1 billion. He’s also founded nine other companies, been on the board of 20 companies, and advised more than 50 companies. He’s most recently the author of Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution: A Handbook for Entrepreneurs, hailed by Steve Wozniak as the “Bible for entrepreneurs.” Uri is dedicated to creating impactful startups that solve real-world problems and has seen everything from failure to moderate success to big success. In our conversation, we dig into: • Why falling in love with the problem is key to startup success • The phases of the startup journey and how to navigate them • Why firing is more important than hiring • How Waze iterated to achieve product-market fit • Tactics for telling a compelling story when fundraising • Much more — Brought to you by: • Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security: https://vanta.com/lenny • Mercury—The powerful and intuitive way for ambitious companies to bank: https://mercury.com/ • LinkedIn Ads—Reach professionals and drive results for your business: https://www.linkedin.com/podlenny Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-uri-levine Where to find Uri Levine: • X: https://twitter.com/urilevine1 • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/uri-levine • Website: https://urilevine.com/ Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Uri’s background (02:50) Falling in love with the problem (09:01) Signs this is a big enough problem (10:52) The importance of passion (12:04) A pivot example (13:59) Where to find startup ideas (21:55) Finding product-market fit at Waze (29:43) The different phases of a startup journey (36:45) What investors don’t want to hear (39:51) Fundraising tips (48:00) How to make your presentations stronger (50:30) A wild fundraising story (53:44) Firing and hiring (59:48) The 30-day test (01:04:10) Understanding users (01:12:08) Talking to the right users (01:15:34) Lightning round Referenced: • Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution: A Handbook for Entrepreneurs: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Love-Problem-Solution-Entrepreneurs/dp/1637741987 • Waze: https://www.waze.com/ • Ben Horowitz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/behorowitz/ • Ben Horowitz quote: https://quotefancy.com/quote/1635284/Ben-Horowitz-As-a-startup-CEO-I-slept-like-a-baby-I-woke-up-every-2-hours-and-cried • Michael Jordan quote: https://www.forbes.com/quotes/11194/#:~:text=I've%20lost%20almost%20300,that%20is%20why%20I%20succeed. • Steph Curry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Curry • How Airbnb Used Word of Mouth to Change the Travel Industry Forever: https://truested.com/story/airbnb • Space Mountain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Mountain_(Disneyland) • How Netflix builds a culture of excellence | Elizabeth Stone (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-netflix-builds-a-culture-of-excellence • Steve Wozniak on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wozniaksteve/ • Uri’s post about the conference in Guatemala with Steve Wozniak: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/uri-levine_jewishnewyear-speakers-book-activity-6980089544079486976-0ADa/ • Leonardo da Vinci quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9010638-simplicity-is-the-ultimate-sophistication-when-once-you-have-tasted • Geoffrey Moore on finding your beachhead, crossing the chasm, and dominating a market: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/geoffrey-moore-on-finding-your-beachhead • Nana Korobi Ya Oki: https://ikigaitribe.com/vlog/nana-korobi-ya-oki/ • That Will Never Work: The Birth of Netflix and the Amazing Life of an Idea: https://www.amazon.com/That-Will-Never-Work-Netflix/dp/0316530204 • Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones: https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break/dp/0735211299 • 8 Great Chess Apps for Beginners and Grand Masters: https://www.wired.com/story/best-chess-apps/ • Pontera: https://pontera.com/ Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.
Lessons from a 2-time unicorn builder, 50-time startup advisor and 20-time board member | Uri Levine
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  • Fall in love with the problem, not the solution. This is the core lesson Uri Levine has learned from his extensive startup experience.
  • Validating that a problem is real and significant by speaking with many potential customers (at least 20-30 people) is crucial before committing to a startup idea.
  • Passion and personal excitement about the problem you're trying to solve is essential for the founder, as it provides the drive to overcome the hardships of the startup journey.
  • The startup journey is filled with failures, so founders need to be willing to fail fast and learn from those failures to increase their chances of success.
  • The key phases of a startup are: 1) ideation, 2) finding product-market fit, 3) growth, and 4) business model. Founders should focus on one phase at a time.
  • When pitching to investors, lead with your strongest point and craft a compelling, emotionally engaging story rather than just presenting facts.
  • Firing underperforming or disruptive employees quickly is critical, as a misaligned team can derail a startup. The "30-day rule" is a useful tactic.
  • Understanding your users deeply, including their surprising or unexpected uses of your product, is essential for building something truly valuable.
  • Failure should be embraced as a learning opportunity, and founders should encourage that mindset in their teams and families.
  • Uri Levine is passionate about solving big problems in areas like mobility, healthcare, and retirement, and continues to explore new startup ideas in these domains.
 
I will tell you I'm going to build an AI crowdsource based navigation system you're going to say oh yeah very interesting but you don't care if I will tell you I'm going to help you to avoid traffic gems then you do care and when your customer cares they want you to be successful and when they want you to be successful they are going to help you to become successful and so in that sense fall in love with the problem is really a key to increase the likelihood of being successful Uri Levine (Waze)
 
Everyone wants to have word of mouth. word of mouth you can only have if you have high frequency of use Uri Levine (Waze)
 
If you ask people what is the value of waze then it's not about avoiding traffic it's about creating certainty. uncertainty is way higher value than saving time. Uri Levine (Waze)
 
Good enough and free winds the market